Posts by Sad emo

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Uh...hi...

by klinton in

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i was looking around the internet, trying to locate an image of god's chariot to show someone, and i found this little place here.

it's...interesting.

as far as i can tell from poking around there seems to be a mix of the faithful, the inactive, and the disfellowshiped (like myself).

Sad emo

Hi klinton

Welcome to our chariot!! Have a real good look around and enjoy your stay!

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Our dog died. :(

by Mulan in

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our 15 year old dog died this afternoon..............with assistance from a veterinarian friend of rachel's (princess).

she was old, sick, and with multiple health issues.

it was a really hard decision, but the vet really helped ease my mind, by assuring me it was time.

Sad emo

(((Mulan)))

sorry to hear of the loss of your friend.

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Where is their Scriptural proof?

by Honesty in

that people who discover the jehovah's witnesses and their watchtower bible and tract society are not nor ever have been approved by god to 'speak' for him and then leave the group are not going to be resurrected?

according to the bible everyone who has ever lived experiences a resurrection, so where does the wt 'no resurrection' teaching originate other than in the demented minds of the wt hierarchy?

Sad emo

Hi architect, welcome to the board

you said:

Since Jehovah wants to be worshipped would he accept us no matter where we worship? Its hard to believe he would!

but this is exactly what Jesus was addressing when he spoke with the Samaritan woman:

20 .	"Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship."
21 .	Jesus *said to her, "Woman, believe Me, an hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.
22 .	"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews.
23 .	"But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
24 .	"God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." John 4:20-24, NASB It doesn't matter where we worship Jehovah - what matters is the sincerity of our heart when we do worship, and worship isn't only about prayers, religious rites and the like, it's how we live our lives. What would happen for example if someone worships Jehovah but isn't able to get to a KH/church building - will Jehovah reject his worship? No! By the same extension, I would agree with Now What? that Jehovah accepts the worship of non-Christians also ie in the way they live their lives even though they might not be aware that they are worshipping. (Well put Now What?! It's often hard to explain!) Would Jehovah refuse any such people a Resurrection in order to 'stand trial'? I doubt it, He would not be a just judge if He refused even the guilty a fair trial - remember in His eyes we are ALL guilty!! 'The amazing thing about grace is that it's just not fair' - Relient K.

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Lost and found

by Crumpet in

i just lost my favourite ring - the little brass signet band my grandfather gave me when i was 9 and i have worn every minute sincei was 9.

i went franctic and then retraced my steps and found it on the downstairs bathroom floor - tucked under the rug and was finally calm.

have you ever lost anything and had it found or returned unusually or unexpectedly?.

Sad emo

I lost my cat out of a closed room last week - no, seriously, I haven't a clue how she got past me without being seen. I hunted all over the room, finally gave up looking after about 10 minutes and went to sit down in the living room - and there she was.

My sister lost her expensive engagement ring, fortunately it was insured so she claimed, having searched for almost a month and lost all hope of seeing it again. It turned up THREE YEARS later, it had fell down the side of her bed and wedged between the floorboards somehow. Amazing.

I'm glad you found your ring, the sentimental value is the part that can never be replaced when something gets lost.

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Im new

by g_cuddles in

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is there anyone here who actually support jws or is everyone disassociated?.

Sad emo

Hi cuddles, welcome to the board.

Yes there's loads of good folks here from all backgrounds - I'm not a Witness and never have been.

Stick around, study, learn, ask questions, don't be afraid to disagree but most of all -----

Enjoy Your Stay!!

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Where is their Scriptural proof?

by Honesty in

that people who discover the jehovah's witnesses and their watchtower bible and tract society are not nor ever have been approved by god to 'speak' for him and then leave the group are not going to be resurrected?

according to the bible everyone who has ever lived experiences a resurrection, so where does the wt 'no resurrection' teaching originate other than in the demented minds of the wt hierarchy?

Sad emo

Now What?:

Christ himself defined the unforgivable sin - Matthew 12:31-32 - as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and he said it would not be forgiven ever.

Within context, I see the unforgivable sin as either a denial of the Holy Spirit's power or attributing it to Satan. If we deny the power of the Holy Spirit, we deny him any access to our lives - including the power to convict us of our sin - so we effectively put ourselves outside of God's mercy (and send ourselves to hell?).

So gehenna's only going to contain those who want to be there (I think C.S. Lewis said something like that too)

Like you, I don't get how witnesses say such people won't be resurrected, Hebrews 9:27 says that man dies once and then judgement follows, nobody bypasses judgement. Wouldn't they have to be resurrected to face judgement?

ps I didn't think you were being antagonistic. It's probably the way I reply that's the problem

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The Genesis contradiction

by Rayvin in

i saw a post that mentioned a contradiction in gen. 10 and gen. 11. how in one it says they spoke different lang.

then the next states that there was only one lang.

i mentioned this to my dad to see what he came up with.

Sad emo

To me, chapter 11 reads as a retrospective account of how the different languages came to be.

So chapter 10 tells you that all the languages were there, including Shem's general line of descendants. Chapter 11 then gives the account of how there came to be so many languages and continues with Shem's specific line of descendants through Arphaxad - so the book now shifts from the story of the whole world into the story of Israel.

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Where is their Scriptural proof?

by Honesty in

that people who discover the jehovah's witnesses and their watchtower bible and tract society are not nor ever have been approved by god to 'speak' for him and then leave the group are not going to be resurrected?

according to the bible everyone who has ever lived experiences a resurrection, so where does the wt 'no resurrection' teaching originate other than in the demented minds of the wt hierarchy?

Sad emo

Now what, you seemed a little surprised by the following:

but a person can add to that by his own deliberate, willful course of sin, and he can thus die for such sin that is beyond coverage by the ransom.

I think that there is scriptural reasoning for this:

New Revised Standard Version

Hebrews ch.6:

4 .

For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit,

5 .

and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come,

6 .

and then have fallen away, since on their own they are crucifying again the Son of God and are holding him up to contempt.

Plus what about the 'unforgivable sin' against the Holy Spirit ?

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Is god all knowing?

by gringojj in

i dont understand how god can be omnipotent, and all knowing, but that doesnt apply to knowing the future?

god is not human.

he had the power to create us.

Sad emo

The way I was taught was that God is outside of our time, so He can see what's going to happen down the ages like an aerial view of a carnival parade, but He doesn't make things happen (that was to get around the free will v. predestination argument).

I'm not sure if I buy this though cos wouldn't that mean that He fits His plans into ours rather than the other way round?

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Hello from Australia...

by Riverview in

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just wanted to say hi.... its my 1st time on here...it looks good.. are there many here from aus??.

i am 37 - male - was a jw all my life until 2 years ago.

used to pioneer regularly and was a ms. thankfully i questioned everything in the end and found out who god really is and the history of the jw's....my wife and i were shocked after reading coc and c/freedom.

Sad emo

Hi Riverview

Welcome to the board

There's a few here from Australia - me not being one of them!

How does Riverview compare to the Hillsong church sizewise? Can we expect the Christian music market in the UK to be flooded by cd's from 'your place' soon as well